And Gaither had two psychiatrists who would take care of the rest: They would both testify that she was an intelligent, sophisticated girl who probably knew right from wrong when she killed her mother. The only hope the defense attorneys had was that Annas truth would hold out some extenuating circumstances. And so just weeks after helping Spencer move in, Lile found himself packing up her things. Grigson testified that Lucinda Stout was a sociopath capable of further violence if not incarcerated. Well, this is like having a broken leg with two ends of the bone sticking out. Friends of Spencers just so happened to live near the Lile family, and when they heard Lucas Lile was in between jobs, they told him Spencer was looking for help with her move. He opened the door and his wife fell on top of him. Youre definitely positive? The note in the book was addressed to Lucas: We the family of Lucinda Spencer will be forever grateful for the care you gave her in the last hours of her life. (62kg) Hair Colour We went through the entire house in three weeks. Ben Spencer hugs his mother, Lucille Spencer, after he was released from the Dallas County jail in Dallas on Friday, March 12, 2021. Her five siblings flew to Colorado Wednesday to remember her and while finding support in each other, they said they also found it in the Boulder community. It was a small victory, but David Lancaster needed all the encouragement he could get. Yes, I could have. When Arthur wasn't watching, Lucinda snuck out of the house to pay Tiffany a visit. Spencer and Lile were taking a break from moving, standing outside near a tree, something Rudee said they did often. To use it at the punishment stage of an adult criminal trial was a violation of Luandas constitutional rights. No. She stabbed her mother once in the back, but Mrs. Stout managed to pull out the knife and stumble to the back door. Lucinda was born in Lisburn, County Down, and spent her first few years in the nearby village of Drumbeg. Hes a hero, hes my Superman. I didnt do it. Hours later, David Lancaster listened to his young clients second confession. Many of the details of the crime were the same, but this time she said she hadnt stabbed her mother; her father had. Lucinda ran out of the kitchen into the living room. Lucinda's family says she was the free spirit of the bunch. She was just getting to know her neighbors.. Even more frightening, Williams couldn't walk. It stays with you all the time.". A couple of days later, she continued, Lucinda told her over the phone that she had to kill them, that she couldnt run away. Stout admitted to at least two affairs but maintained they had been six years ago. She had about $31,000. Among some fifty roles, she is known as Dr. Amber Volakis on American television show House, Clare Pettengill on British television show The Book Group, and Francine Hanson in the American television show Mad Men. but it can also be stressful. Her father had grounded her for two weeks. Do you love your sister? We went through the entire house in three weeks. What Clay doesn't realize, however, is that Lucinda isn't nearly as nice as she looks and he soon gets more trouble than he could ever hope to realize. She then sets about spending his money and seducing his son, Nick. No, sir. A victim of a form of Lou Gehrigs Disease, Lancaster suffered from periodic muscular atrophy. Cheryl Ladd gives a star turn in eliciting sympathy for her character at the beginning. I dont understand. My mother. I do not. Numerous trees have been uprooted, many people are without power, and roads have been closed due to vehicles being blown over. A little later, they went to a Chinese restaurant for dinner. When Mr. Stout came to his wifes aid, Lucinda ran to the living room, got a pistol shed planted there, returned to the kitchen and shot her father twice. And I said I was real glad her and her parents were getting along and she took them to dinner. The next day, the state called their two best witnesses, Anna Villasana and Bobby Stout. First number that came to my mind. No, sir. What made you decide to protect your father in this matter? Not long afterward, to Matt's horror, his best friend and Lucinda are subsequently married. We met him at his house. The girl doesnt have much time to think about where she is. Yes. Lancaster got investigating officers to admit that there was no evidence of blood in the back yard or on the back porch. It was hard to tell; it was always hard to tell. He died of a broken heart.. But you had no girlfriends? Likewise, her beauty definitely added to the overall scenery as well. Meanwhile, Lile was back at home with his parents after breaking up with a girlfriend and once again finding himself between jobs. Okay, thats incorrect. In some ways he gave his life for her.. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. Its shocking what happened.. Did she tell him why she did it? , she has been keeping her foot elevated. He just said he was going to get an attorney for her. theyd argued from time to time about that, you know, and accusations would go back and forth; hed accused her of infidelities also. The two were married for 12 years and had three children together: Elizabeth, Melinda, and John Andrew. The defense rested, not having made much headway. He hoped the jury understood that, because it directly conflicted with Bobby Stouts story; on the other hand, he hoped they didnt notice it also conflicted with Lucindas story. Feeding him ice cream. He was highly regarded in his profession, but he had a controversial theory of criminal behavior: He felt that in many cases a sociopathic personality could be determined by the basic range of psychological tests. She had confessed to the crimes. Lucinda, his favorite niece, sat handcuffed and wide-eyed in the back seat of a patrol car. No one knew where she was. Bobby Stout took the stand and repeated his story of the night of June 10. Lucinda Strange, a mother of two, worked at a nearby hotel with her daughter and loved spending time with her children. . Were very proud of Lucas. I got to Mama with a knife. The broadcaster has been giving fans updates on her recovery on social media and what it's been like getting back to work at the ABC studio. Ladd goes around playing sexy and that's about it. Because my dad wasnt there when she got there. 2018 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. Before he went back to work for the county, Lile had one more job. The National Weather Service recorded an 89 mph gust in Louisville. 10 John Ramsey Had Another Daughter Who Died Four Years Earlier. Not long after David Stout arrived, they carried out Sharons body in a blood-stained canvas bag. See production, box office & company info. I told my father and I told I told Mary Bolch. Judge Mead was another charmer. Haynes had gone to John Meads court the day before and moved for a new trial, principally on the grounds that Lancasters impairment was so great the court should have exercised its authority to remove him. Assuming that August 24 was the day you testified, did you tell anybody prior to August the 24th the truth about these incidents? "She said, 'I'm going walking now,' and about an hour later somebody come knocking at the door and said, 'There is somebody down here along the side of the road,'" recalledLucindaStrange's husband,Jerome Strange, as he wiped back tears. Burn-ham was a wily, experienced trial lawyer with boyish good looks, a ready grin, and an aw shucks manner. Lucinda Barry was a Junior Detective for the SBPD before she was transferred for being in a relationship with Head Detective Carlton Lassiter. She even gave fans several glimpses of what happens between takes on the program in pictures posted on Instagram. And finally, he knew how much Lucinda had loved her mother. She told Anna that she would be better off with her parents dead. The judge reserved a row near the front for his wife and friends, and granted photographers unprecedented access to the courtroom. She said the first time she talked to her was Friday night about 10 at the grocery store. Gaither objected; Penfold overruled. The basics. In Smith v. Estelle, an appeal involving an armed robber whose conviction was based on similar testimony by Grigson, Porter wrote: Even a cursory review of the psychiatric literature reveals the psychiatrists differ widely in their diagnosis of the same patients. If you want to put it that way. Annas testimony provided the one thing the prosecution hadnt had in its arsenal: evidence of premeditation. Did you have a conversation with an individual and state to her that I have dreamed about this. The defense had failed to get Bobby Stout on any count; hed been believable. I tried to lean forward to get my scripts and, well, I dont want to say what almost happened.. But given adequate psychiatric care, he said, she should not pose a threat to the community. Lancaster asked Kleinmeir if he knew what they were supposed to do with juveniles under arrest. Nick and Monroe scared Lucinda using a Murcilago Matraca, and Spencer then murdered Lucinda not only to save Taylor, but also to save Lucinda from herself. He repeated Sharons name, but that was the only time I ever saw him. A few weeks after the move, Spencer rehired Lile to help her sort through some things because she had more than she could fit in the new place. Gary Nichols (best friend of Jimmy) is still a detective for the Peru Police Dept. In laymens terms, the lawyers were claiming that juveniles rights in an arrest situation are special: They not only have to be read their rights, they must have the rights explained. Susan Grund is the only one who knows exactly what happened that night in August. In that conversation did you tell everything youve told us today? You killed one and now you want to put it on your dad . The last person that was truly with her was Lucas, telling her she was going to be OK, and she probably really needed that at that moment. They had to impugn his motives in testifying against his daughter. She tries to go after the money of a friend of a detective. David suddenly realized he had funeral arrangements to make, hospital accommodations to check on. Lucinda said she was going to kill her parents to get their money and their car; she was going to cut them up, put them in a plastic bag, and burn them. Rudee had been tasked with cleaning out Spencers apartment. Were you lying to me? On my return back from Mat leave I was lucky to find a new employer who. Im strong, Im young, I can do that, Im just like Superman.. We had a lot of fun.. Its possible, the officer admitted. That is what Lile and Spencer were doing on the afternoon of April 17, 2018, when everything changed with a gust of wind and the sound of snapping wood. The film takes place across three pivotal days, Christmas Eve . The Indiana Supreme Court has turned aside the appeal of convicted killer Susan Grund, ending her hopes of a shorter sentence. She wanted me to come home with her because she didnt want to do it by herself. In the police car, she confessed. Finally, those fascinated with the royal family get to hear Kristen Stewart's take on Princess Diana's accent. But there was one missing link. She said she would get six months and then she would be a free girl, and she could do and say as she wished. Her father left the store for about an hour and a half. Huh? Because she wouldnt let you go out with the people late at night? Big Ms tend to reflect the current prosecutorial emphasis of District Attorney Henry Wades office. She then called her friend Anna and said something she couldnt remember. He then drives her to her sister's house nearby and then heads to a nearby nightclub where some friends are waiting for him. "Right now, there is no one to vent that anger towards," JeromeStrange said. He hoped that the current remission of his ailment would continue at least through the final arguments. "Everybody is just stunned. But no matter how odd the circumstances that brought these two people together, Rudee said she will be forever grateful they had each other in the end. The young man really doesnt have an explanation for it. Youre not going to be satisfied Yes. . For example, on the Tuesday before June 10, she and Lucinda went to a grocery store together. The trial and punishment of Lucinda Stout. He hadnt wanted all the publicity in the first place. Alexander was tall and imposing, one of the best cross-examiners in the city. Should the State assume that a 16-year-old who does such a terrible thing is hardened beyond rehabilitation? You have a lot of older trees in the area. Either the jury believed Lucinda or they believed her father. Learn more about merges . The motion for removal wasnt granted, and Penfold gaveled the hearing to order on August 22, 1977. First published on April 20, 2018 / 10:01 PM. His wife had worked as a secretary at First National Bank for 14 years. Rudee got the call and rushed to the hospital as she tried to get a hold of Spencers family out of state. This isnt fair. She had never met Lile, but she wanted to meet the man she had heard about from Spencer, the man who was there in her friends last moments of consciousness. Nothing can happen to Lucas.'. "In the two days we've been here I think just overwhelmed with kindness with everyone we've met," Dan choked up, "We have been touched by extraordinary generosity. The only point of dispute was where the blood was found and how it got there. Lucinda Stout was handed 99 years in prison for the murder of her mother. By the end, she has become a monster. One: Lucinda Stouts confession on June 11 was inadmissible because it violated two sections of the Texas Family Code and two areas of federal warnings rights law. 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He was that kind of person. Lucindas probation officer testified that Lucinda had been cheerful, helpful, and hard-working during her stay at the juvenile detention center. I had to use the gun. Lancaster took over and poked around a bit more in Stouts private life. How many times did she tell you she was going to kill her parents? Bobby Stout had been wounded twice, once in the abdomen, once through the back. For those couple of weeks, every day he couldnt sleep, he couldnt eat, he was just so upset all the time, Gail Lile said. Donna Drake, David Bethel, and I dont know the other guys name because I hadnt met him before. Slightly above average. That means that at best, she could be paroled in some 10 years, when shes 26. Anna, what time did your daddy Rudy come home last night? About 150 people showed up to Liles service, and for Gail Lile the day was a blur of condolences and hugs. And he had to help Lucinda. We have the best job in the world.'. What did Lucinda say to her the night of June 10, when she and her father came to the grocery store, Burnham asked. Although I didn't expect too much initially due to the made-for-television format, I was somewhat surprised by how well it kept my interest pretty much from start-to-finish. Paige Lucinda Spencer, 41, of Walker Street in Concord, was arrested at 11:40 p.m. on Aug. 10, on a simple assault charge. Lancaster mentally checked off point one: Some courts have held that juveniles in custody must have more explicit warnings of their legal rights. Today, the plague is rare in the U.S., only a handful catch it each year and it's mostly found in Southwestern states like where Lucinda . Gail Lile isnt sure if Spencers family will be able to make it, but no matter what happens, Spencer will always be a part of Liles story, and he a part of hers. Burnham cross-examined aggressively. Intellectually, she was in the superior range. We laughed and cried. Directly after arrest. Although KSP said the case has been cold for years, investigators would still like to speak with anymore who has information about what happened March 25, 1990, in Bardstown, Kentucky. Liles was just beginning. He wanted to help his sister, but he didnt want to turn on his father. I especially liked the acting on the part of Cheryl Ladd who played her part in a solid manner. He only knew her six weeks, Rudee said. I especially liked the acting on the part of Cheryl Ladd who played her part in a solid manner. Yes. She portrayed Junior Detective Lucinda Barry on the USA Network hit original series Psych. After putting on a show of comfort, Lucinda murdered her as well. Im strong, Im young, I can do that, Im just like Superman.'. The Stout case was the first major test of these procedures, because the issues were complicated ones. He dug out his Superman lunch box, and went to start work the next day. They would not present a case that Lucinda Stout didnt commit the crimes of July 10, or that Bobby Stout did. David Lancaster could see that Lucinda, who until now had been cool, almost icy, was breaking under Burnhams relentless questioning. According to the police, Lucindas first words to them were, Im crazy. On May 10, 2018, Puzo was out in the field at Heil Valley Ranch when she saw people rushing to the other side of the ridge, gathering at the main trailhead. In some ways he gave his life for her.. The District Attorneys office would undoubtedly attempt to certify Lucinda Stout as an adult and try her for murder, asking for life imprisonment. Though deputies couldnt track her down, somehow the DAs office had managed to find her. The attorneys have requested a rehearing before the full court; if that fails, they will pursue possible means of federal appeal. Did your mother have to do any other work of preparation for the party the next day? But during a routine physical, doctors discovered he had high blood pressure, and they couldnt figure out why. Alexander and Lancaster slumped in dismay. Previously he had worked at the Quadrant Health Club as a barber, had owned part of a topless bar on Greenville, and had run a barber shop at the Fairmont Hotel. Penfold sustained Gaithers objection. Did Stout tell you he was in danger of being indicted for this murder? The murder of Crystal Spencer has it all. Gail Lile remembers her son coming home the night Spencer was hospitalized. Either her calm appearance had impressed the jurors that she was an intelligent, responsible girl, or it had given them evidence that she was a cold-hearted killer. Lancaster then tried to get Stout to clear up a discrepancy in testimony. Is it possible for a psychiatrist to diagnose incurable sociopathological behavior in a youngster? Well, you put it any way you want. No . Yes, sir. Juvenile justice once rested on the premise that the law should treat children as children. The news correspondent almost fell out of her chair during a commercial break on the show one day but assured fans she was OK. Although he succeeded in bursting Lucinda's vital organs, she bit into his neck and fatally wounded him before dying. It was a big move after she had a beautiful property she lived on for 16 years. They have also lived in Morrill, NE and Beattyville, KY. Lucinda is related to Jennifer Rae Norton and James Raymond Spencer as well as 1 additional person. She attended school in the Clairton School District and. Look at her, Daddy, Lucinda said. This woman , if thats what you want to call her is very deceiving. No, sir. One of them would add that she was an incurable sociopath, likely to commit further violent acts. Rudee went into the room and held her friends hand as they took Spencer off life support. Gail Lile said one weekend, her son broke. No, not recently. Lucinda visited with her friend, Rudys daughter Anna, while Bobby and Rudy had a couple of beers. One judge may be satisfied that a child is beyond rehabilitation on the basis of one or two psychiatric reports; another may want ten. Lucinda said she then walked over and kicked the knife out of her fathers reach. And so Lile helped Spencer move her things, and the two quickly bonded. But he knew what he had to do. Did you have any reason to kill your mother or father on June 6, 1977? David tried to talk to Lucinda, hoping she would tell him what had. Sir, my mother, I assumed, was dead because she wasnt breathing. Please enter valid email address to continue. By implication, they were raising an even larger question: Can a juvenile be arrested under one set of privileges and then tried and convicted under another? 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